“Simplify: Be practical in homeschooling and prioritize what’s truly important.” ~ Kristi Clover
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Yvette Hampton sits down with Kristi Clover, a veteran homeschool mom of five and author. Kristi shares her top sanity-saving tips for homeschool moms. Learn how to eliminate morning mayhem, create sustainable routines, and stop unproductive comparisons.
🔍 Key Takeaways: – Training Kids for Independent Work – Simplification in Homeschooling – Handling Different Learning Styles – Importance of Character Over Academics – Dealing with Social Media Pressures
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Come back tomorrow and Thursday for the rest of this conversation with Kristi Clover.
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Discussion Questions:
1. Kristi talks about teaching her children to work independently from an early age. What strategies have you found effective or challenging in fostering independence in your children’s learning?
2. The episode highlights the importance of creating routines in a homeschooling environment. Can you share specific routines that have been beneficial or problematic for your family?
3. Kristi discusses simplifying homeschooling by prioritizing certain subjects and activities. How do you determine which areas to prioritize and which to simplify or omit?
4. Comparison and social media can heavily impact the homeschooling experience. How do you manage or mitigate the influence of social media and comparison in your own life?
5. The episode mentions the power of embracing flexibility and changing curricula as needed. Have you ever had to switch curricula mid-year? What was the catalyst, and how did the change impact your homeschooling?
6. Kristi talks about the significant role of character development and heart training in homeschooling. What specific methods or practices do you use to focus on character building in your children’s education?
7. In discussing the toxic environment of public schools, how do you approach conversations with others who may not understand or agree with your decision to homeschool?
8. How do you balance the spiritual, educational, and practical aspects of homeschooling to avoid becoming overwhelmed?
9. Kristi mentions the importance of eliminating morning mayhem. What morning routines or practices have you implemented to ensure a smooth start to your homeschooling day?
10. The episode ends with the importance of recognizing God’s hand in education and life. How do you integrate faith and spirituality into your daily homeschooling routine to nurture your children’s spiritual growth?
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I had my picture of what I thought homeschooling
would look like and I had gone to all these
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homeschool conferences I was like yes I am
going to make my home school look just like
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that and it’s going to be beautiful and you
could put a we’re going to be a poster family
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for homeschooling and then you’re like this is
impossible hey everyone this is evet Hampton
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welcome back to the Schoolhouse Rock podcast I
am back for day two of my interview with Christy
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Clover from the Homegrown generation family
Expo this session was titled sanity savers
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for homeschool moms and I know you are probably
already being so encouraged because if you’re
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listening now I’m sure you already listened to
Monday’s episode if you missed it go back and
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listen to Monday to part one of my interview with
chrisy it was so good and so helpful she has so
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many good tips for how to just keep our sanity
in our homeschooling but before we get back into
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now enjoy part two of my interview with Christy
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Clover it is amazing how like things get done
when Mom is like well we’re going to have to
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wait until tomorrow and they’re like I’m going to
be behind I’m like well possibly so let me ask you
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a quick question on that point yes obviously
if your kids are going to work independently
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on something at what age do they start doing
that and how do you teach your kids to work
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independently because it doesn’t just happen
by accident like that is a a is an um practice
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that has to be taught to them yes yeah so we
start as early as possible so anything from
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penmanship I actually keep penmanship as part
of our um curriculum because I it’s actually
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part of how I train them to be independent is
that penmanship they can pretty much always do
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on their own for the most part like I might have
to show them okay we’re going to you know form
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your a like this but once you’ve gone through
it a few times then they get it down so the
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key there is that I’m trying to find things that
they can do so whether it’s like a math problem
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so I might read through it help them set up a
few of their word problems help them there and
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then that becomes independent work so even though
it’s something that as a whole it’s a mom required
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if I’ve taught them what they need to know for
that chunk of work and that whatever they can do
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on their own after that that becomes independent
work and so sometimes it’s a back and forth so
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oftentimes like obviously when your kids are
now reader like the pre-readers require the
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most work um so right now like my 14-year-old is
100% independent other than a spelling test like
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if or like editing a paper um my 11-year-old who
is officially in fifth grade kind of fifth sixth
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it’s all kind of Blended right want to confuse a
homeschool kid asking what grade they’re in right
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um but she is almost like she’s right there she’s
so close um but she also just it’s a style thing
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so it’s not just an age thing and a maturity thing
it’s a style like she is like she loves checklists
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which I’m like one five one five I’m like Yay but
then like my uh my youngest who’s nine she will
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she’ll do it but it’s like if fun calls then she’s
going to go answer to whatever’s fun and so if the
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other siblings are done then she’ll go off and run
and play with I’m like wait wait wait wait wait we
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didn’t finish this so um it’s really is it’s a
balance and it changes constantly that’s the the
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thing that I’ve learned in these 15 years plus of
homeschooling is that every kid’s different every
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season is different every you can’t just create
something and expect it to stay so like I have you
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know sometimes just a year might be different
where we’ve got you know lots of Independent
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Learning happening because they can handle it but
then maybe we swi a curriculum and now suddenly
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it requires more help um so it just it I that’s
a hard question to answer because like it’s so
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different for every kid and your curriculum will
lead that too because if you have a video based
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curriculum well they can hit play and that I would
consider independent um from that from that moment
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they’re they don’t need you exactly so if they can
do something without me so then they’re watching
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their math video I help with grammar over here and
then it’s like okay next kid you know watching the
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math video and then I help over here with writing
you know so it’s just yeah it’s just it’s a lot of
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going back and forth so I’m just kind of in the
room and kind of like when next yeah yeah it’s
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awesome yeah I love that okay so so we’ve got keep
your knees dirty eliminate morning Mayhem Y what
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was the next one uh creating routines oh creating
routines okay Y and then the next one is to
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simplify and this is hard for me at first because
I had my picture of what I thought homeschooling
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would look like and I had gone to all these
homeschool conferences I was like yes I am going
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to make my homeschool look just like that and it’s
going to be beautiful and you could put a we’re
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going to be a poster family for homeschooling and
then you’re like this is impossible and I have too
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much curriculum and what was I thinking and like
what do you mean my kids aren’t like on it all the
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time I mean they have their own what I mean like
me too like it’s not just my kids sometimes I’m
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like I am I need a break so I’m the one that I’m
like we’ll do history tomorrow but you know like
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so there’s moments like that but for me it was
learning how to be practical in what we were doing
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so anything from um just prioritizing so what do
we really need to get done today what curriculum
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not curriculum but what subjects are a priority
for us to get done you know um so obviously Bible
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like there’s days where I’m like did we do Bible
today I’m like that’s the most important thing
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and so we might do it in the evening um but
trying to find curriculum that simplifies is
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probably one of my first steps so I do um I’ve had
to change our curriculum a lot through the years
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because even some that it seemed in one season
to be a really great choice as we got you know
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as kids got older and we were adding kids to the
mix I’m like this is no longer easy because it’s
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requiring too much of me so I do try to look for
curriculum that is a little bit easier to do um
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for you know or more independent in its style
um and if it’s not then I I’ll switch mid year
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if I have to because it’s not worth it to me to
have my kids frustrated um and sometimes they’re
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frustrated because they are not understanding a
concept and we need to go over it and sometimes
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it’s just it’s a wrong fit yeah um so I think you
need to not be I don’t know overwhelmed it yeah
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yeah exactly and like one of my little things is
you know you need to embrace the marry mentality
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and Martha Stewart world so you know whether it’s
your home or your homeschool like you just need to
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prioritize things and you can’t get to everything
so there’s going to be days when it’s like okay so
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laundry is is a mountain now and so we need to get
on top of this and so today we’re going to learn
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math and color sorting doing laundry you know so
how many things can you fold today let’s count
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you know but homeschooling really does become a
life style in many ways but we do have to learn
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priorities and sometimes that priority is to take
a break like right now you know with my with my
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dad’s Health crisis like we’ve had to take breaks
where it’s really hard because I’m like oh are we
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getting behind I’m like we’re not behind because
I’m going to prioritize what’s most important and
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we’re going to skip things and that’s where I like
to tell people about the power of the X a lot of
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curriculum comes with checklists and it’s okay not
to do it um I have friends who are in the public
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school Arena as far as being teachers and just you
know counselors and all of them will tell you if
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they’re being honest they don’t finish curriculum
they don’t and so it’s important to give yourself
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that Grace um in your home school as well yeah
yeah we need that as moms and I think we often
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need to hear like it’s okay to put something down
if it’s not working for you and sometimes we feel
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like you know what we’ve spent so much money on
this and it’s just not working it’s okay sell it
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sell it there’s so many places on the internet you
can sell it or bless another family with it who it
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will work for and move on do something else it’s
not worth a stress of continuing on with it I mean
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we’ve had situations where like we’ve even been
in a co-op where we got halfway through the year
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and we’re just like you know what these people
are great but it’s just not working for us and
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so we pulled out of that Co-op halfway through
the year and that was tough to do but it I just
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thought I don’t want to waste the next five months
yeah doing what’s not working and uh so so that’s
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tough but yes I think it’s important to just know
your family know how your kids learn and it’s a
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learning process still I mean I we’re in your 12
of homeschooling and even now I’m finding things
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with my oldest that I’m just like yeah that’s
not working so well let’s let’s switch gears
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and and that’s okay because we’re homeschooling
we have the freedom to be able to do that and
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we want to cater the education to our kids to
best suit them um and their learning styles and
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our teaching style oh absolutely and I think that
really the best picture of what this looks like in
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action is um you know I do whatever I can with
my kids and I have to trust God to multiply it
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it’s kind of my Loaves and Fishes type of thing
where it’s like Lord this is what we can get done
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today this is what we can get done this year Lord
will you fill in the gaps will you overflow will
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you take care of all of the other things that
need to get done and it’s amazing how faithful
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he is and that’s what we forget God is so faithful
and you don’t have to cover every single thing in
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your home school for God to Faithfully fill in
those gaps um because you know what ultimately
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we’re not trying to raise Einstein’s I mean
great education is important for the heart is
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so much more important what’s the cliche thing
like character over academics you know all those
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there’s all these cute little homeschool cliches
that we can say but ultimately I want to raise
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great people I want my kids I mean it is I can’t
even tell you what it’s like to have a married son
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like to see him as a husband is just the most
beautiful thing it ever like I I can’t even
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explain it but and I can’t wait for the day for
him to be a dad but those are two of the greatest
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roles he will ever play in his life and those
are the things that I realize that my kids yes
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they have an opportunity to learn in our home but
they’re watching us they’re watching my husband
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they’re watching me they’re watching how we’re
our Dynamics they’re watching how we serve they’re
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watching everything and so we’re teaching them how
to handle life and that is of Greater importance
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um you know like I hope that they can you know
balance a checkbook but you know what there are
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apps for that so I was gonna say you know what
you learn those things I mean I I when I look
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back at my childhood and my adult life you know
I knew a lot my my parents taught me a lot and I
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didn’t feel ill prepared going into adulthood
but we I mean Garrett and I had just turned 20
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when we got married we were super young so yeah so
my son yeah and we there were so many things I was
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like I didn’t know how to budget I didn’t know how
to pay bills really and you know what I figured it
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out very quickly you just learn those things but
homeschooling is preparing our kids for life and
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there are going to be gaps like you said there’s
going to be things that we’re going to forget to
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teach them or it’s just things that we just don’t
do on our own uh you know intentionally teach them
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they’re going to figure it out if they need to
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at apologia.com Okay so we’ve got keep your kns
dirty eliminate morning Mayhem create a routine
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simplify you’re taking on it yes you’re like and
and and number five more oh wait infomercial um oh
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but this one is an important one and it’s to stop
the comparison game stop comparing you are unique
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your kids are unique and as we’ve already talked
about we are all going to have different strengths
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and we’re all going to have different weaknesses
and usually what we are showing the world is our
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strength yeah um and that’s all fine and dandy
but it’s okay like it’s we don’t have to you
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know because when I see you doing something
amazing then I’m looking at my weakness I’m
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looking at your strength and I’m identifying
my weakness in that moment and that’s what
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we do everywhere so if there is one thing that I
really want to encourage people in is stop playing
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the comparison game it is not healthy it is not
helpful and it’s just going to drive you insane
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I mean it really I mean that honestly is probably
one of the biggest sanity Savers um because just
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you know it’s I have like one of my best friends
she’s always just like well I wish I was a
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homeschool mom like you I’m like are you kidding
me I’m like we have gaps we have stuff we have
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times when we chill out we have times when we’re
racing and keeping up but ultimately I’m trying to
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tailor things around you know my kids strength
so what I loved about that’s what I love about
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homeschooling is that my oldest is a gifted writer
and he loves reading so we just kind of let him
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do his thing there we made sure that we filled in
other little gaps here and there with you know the
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other part the other subjects U my second is like
a phenomenal photographer and so we were really
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trying to help him to flourish in that area helped
him with some different marketing things and you
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know and then again like brought in some of the
other academics so it’s amazing to see like when
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you become a student of your child and are really
looking at how can I help them to really you know
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to strengthen their strengths then you’re not comp
I don’t want to I mean like I mean you’re you’re
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your children are wonderful but like I am called
my calling is to raise my children and I can’t do
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that looking at your kids and what they’re doing
and so that is um it’s important it’s important
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in every area of our life someone is always going
to be better dressed you know they’re going to be
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you know look more put together they’re going to
have a better house they’re G to have a better car
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they’re going to have a better routine they’re
G to they’re going to just do things people are
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always going to do things better than you in your
own mind but they’re probably looking at you for
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the same thing um and that’s what we we have to be
aware of too is that like you know God has blessed
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all of us um and we need to look look to him
for what does he call us to do each day and and
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stop looking at everybody else so that’s especi
that’s my like I’m turning 50 soon and there’s
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your advice so stop comparing so much harder today
because of stinking social media it didn’t used to
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it it has always been a thing I mean truly
it’s always been a thing I mean the Bible
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talks about that but now we’ve got it in front of
us and like you said people always put their best
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foot forward and so you see all these people
popping up with these beautiful pictures and
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their beautiful homes and their beautiful meals
that they’ve made and their vacations and you’re
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like man I sure wish I had a house that looked
like that I wish I had kids who were put together
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like that and it is so hard to let go of that
but I’m telling you that is Satan’s attack on
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us that’s Satan telling us you’re not good enough
mom you’re not pretty enough you’re not organized
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enough you’re not clean enough you’re not all all
the things you’re just not good enough and often
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times it’s him saying you know you should just
put your kids back in school yeah you would be
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doing better if you just put them back in school
because you’re not doing this homeschool thing
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right all those other people are doing it right
you’re doing it wrong so why don’t you just give
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up on this and the Lord is saying no no no like
you said he’s going to help us through this he’s
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here with us and so he he will give us what we
need and equip us to do what he’s called us to
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do oh absolutely and quite frankly um here I’m
going to get my my little Soap Box do it girl um
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it’s funny cuz it’s like you you hear like all the
terms like you know influencer Advocate all this
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stuff and I’m like we are living in a day and an
age where honestly if you brought your kids home
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from school and did nothing more than eat popcorn
and watch like you know Veggie Tales all day long
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you are doing a better job with your kids and
having them in public school amen public school
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is a toxic environment yes and I think that
I’ve been more more careful at talking about
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that in the past than now because they are showing
their cards oh yeah I I cannot believe I live in
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a conservative area granted I’m in California but
I live in a conservative part of California and I
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don’t care what your neighborhood is what your
school is there is so much out there the enemy
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is after your kids they’re after your marriage
and they’re after your family the enemy knows
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that if he can destroy the family he can destroy
like a community so that is the thing is that if
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you just stay focused on that um trust me you are
doing a better job than you think if you have your
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kids home with you I mean there are times when I’m
like oh maybe our kids like they don’t have enough
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friends like they like there’s all those like you
know maybe that the socialization thing like which
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now I’m like are you kidding me like I do not want
them in that social environment thank you but no
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thank you but I’m like you know what it’s okay
hey because God is going to like cover it all and
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right now we more than ever have to be Protectors
of our kids because again we have seen just I mean
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I can’t believe how blatant it is oh yeah I mean
we had in our little tiny like sweet Community
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here we had drag queen things happening at the
local school district um so I mean it became this
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outrage and that was the thing everyone like
why are you homeschooling you know like it’s
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such a you know like there’s nothing going on in
our schools I’m like it takes one crazy you know
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family to move into town that demands their right
to be heard and so we have Satanist groups we have
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you know fullon just Abominations happening in
school um and if you want your kids to grow up
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loving the Lord and to know the truth of his
word there is no knowledge outside of God the
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Bible is very clear that the you know beginning
of knowledge is in the fear of the Lord and so
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we need to teach that because we teach our kids
to read because they need to read the word of God
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right yeah we need to teach them math because
God is logical and he’s created this beautiful
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you know creation for us to look at so you look
at any science like I laugh I’m a science major
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you cannot look at any of the sciences and not see
God’s hand he designed it all so that if you come
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at your homeschooling with that in mind again like
soap walks all the way but you it is worth it it
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is worth homeschooling it is worth just protecting
your family you are the protector and so if you
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take that on and take off all of the junk the
enemy is trying to throw at you to make you feel
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like you’re a bad mom you need to step away from
that and just call it out an all out lie and um
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and just remember who you are in Christ and that
is what you’re called to do I hope you enjoyed
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this interview with Christy Clover from the 2023
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my interview with Christie until then have a great
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afternoon laughing in the face of impostor
syndrome and coming to you from the epicenter
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of manly overconfidence I’m your host Garrett
Hampton and you are listening to the thinking
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dad even if we’re able to push the evildoers and
the totalitarians back for another generation
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maybe if we work really hard maybe even two
generations if they’ve got the young people
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it’s over I often think about Daniel’s parents who
you don’t hear anything about but they must have
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laid down a foundation for Daniel to be able to
go into Babylon and not fall we’re in that very
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beginning part of the cycle for tough times
we’ve been fat and happy we’ve been enjoying
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the you know we’re lazy because we enjoy so
much Freedom we got all these blessings and
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why would you go do the hard work and so for
a long time now decades we haven’t had to do
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the hard work we’ve been living on the fumes
of previous generations paying the price and
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we got to raise the bar and say I’m willing to
give more of my life that’s my time more of my
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money of course that’s our fortune and more
of my sacred honor which is my reputation I’m
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willing to put it all on the line every
single one of us has to be willing to do
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that join us for the first season of The
Thinking dad at thinking d.net it’s really
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easy to get lost in the world of homeschooling as
a mom um so as a mom it’s important to get time
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whether it’s finding a hobby or spending time
with friends or just kind of going I mean for
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me sometimes I just need to go for a walk on my
own and I laugh cuz the kids are like can we come
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and I’m like not today tomorrow but not today
mommy just needs a little bit of space to like
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finish my thoughts but it’s really important
not to get lost in the realm of mothering