“We actually want homeschooling to be life giving, not just for our children, but also for us as well.” ~ Pam Barnhill
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Join Yvette Hampton and Pam Barnhill as they delve into the essentials of crafting an abundant homeschool experience. In this episode, discover the five basics of an effective homeschool journey, from understanding your motivations to sprinkling wonder and joy in your daily routine. Whether you’re a homeschooling veteran or just beginning, learn how to create a meaningful and enriching environment for your kids.
What You’ll Learn:
- Understanding Homeschool Motivations
- The Importance of Routines
- How to Implement a Minimum Viable Day
- Adding Joy and Wonder to Learning
- Anticipating and Embracing Adjustments
Come back tomorrow for the rest of this conversation.
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Discussion Questions:
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Motivations for Homeschooling: Pam Barnhill emphasizes the importance of understanding your motivations for homeschooling. What are your primary reasons for choosing to homeschool? How do these motivations shape your approach to education?
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Homeschooling Atmosphere: Pam suggests considering the atmosphere you want to create in your homeschool. How would you describe the current atmosphere in your home? What changes, if any, would you like to make to better align with your vision?
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Establishing Routines: How do you currently structure your homeschooling day? Do you find that you lean more towards a daily flow/rhythm or a more structured timetable? Why do you think that is?
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Minimum Viable Day (MVD): What would your minimum viable day look like? What are the essential subjects you would focus on if you had limited time?
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Consistency in Homeschooling: Pam points out the importance of building a consistency muscle. What challenges have you faced in maintaining consistency in your homeschool? How might establishing an MVD help address these challenges?
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Sprinkling Wonder: Pam talks about adding wonder to homeschooling without overwhelming yourself. What are some simple ways you’ve found to add elements of wonder and joy to your homeschool routine?
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Periodic Reviews: How often do you review and adjust your homeschool plan? Do you find it easy or difficult to make changes when things aren’t working as expected?
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Ebb and Flow: The episode discusses the natural ebb and flow of energy throughout the homeschool year. How do you manage periods of low energy and motivation in your homeschool?
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Teenager Dynamics: Yvette mentions the challenge of waking up teenagers and adjusting to their sleep needs. How do you balance the sleep needs of older children with the demands of your homeschool schedule? What strategies have worked for you?
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Building your consistency muscle in your homeschool is going to have
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the biggest benefit for your homeschool over anything
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else. It is bigger than choosing the perfect curriculum. It
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is bigger than getting the right method. It’s bigger than all of that.
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Just choosing something and being consistent with it
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regularly. Hey, everyone, this is Yvette Hampton.
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Welcome back to the Schoolhouse Rocked Podcast. I am back with Pam Barnhill
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and we are having a great time this week. She is such an encouragement to
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me. I’ve told you guys this before, but one of the reasons I continue doing
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this podcast is because even though I’ve graduated my oldest,
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I still have five years to go, and I still always feel
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like I need encouragement from other homeschool moms and
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resources. And sometimes I find that things aren’t working the way that I’ve been doing
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them. As a matter of fact, this year, I mean, it’s just a whole new
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season for us as an only homeschooling one child instead of two. And it is
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different. And so I’m always trying to find ways to be encouraged. And
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so I love having guests on like Pam who encourage me and
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give me resources, and she’ll say something. I’m like, oh, I never thought about that
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before. That’s a really great idea. And so she is, she’s just such a joy
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to have. So if you missed the last two episodes with Pam, go back and
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listen to those and you will be greatly encouraged. So we’re going to keep talking
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about these things today. But before we do, I want to say thank you to
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Bjupresshomeschool.com. well, Pam, welcome
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back to the schoolhouse Rocked podcast. Um, let’s talk about,
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like, just having an abundant homeschool. Like what? Like,
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what are some of the basics? And I know this is something that you and
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your team have been working on for some time now and
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just bringing more encouragement to homeschool
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families so that we’re not just getting through
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with the homeschool years and being able to check that box, but so that we
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can truly have a wonderful and
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fruitful and abundant time with our kids
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as they’re under our roof and we’re homeschooling them. Yeah, yeah. So
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we have been exploring this idea of kind of the five
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basics to an abundant homeschool. And you’re right, we
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don’t just want to get by with our kids. We actually want it to be
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life giving, not just for our children, but also for us as
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well. And so how can we homeschool with a little bit more
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joy? And then what are the basic steps to that? Whether we’re brand
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new to homeschooling or maybe we’ve been homeschooling for ten or 15 years
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and we feel like we need a reset. And so we’ve come up with kind
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of these five basic things that we feel like you, you know, it’s
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good to have in place. And the first one of those is to consider
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your motivations. So why are you doing this homeschool
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thing? What does education look like in your home? If
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you’ve caught the first two episodes from earlier this week, I’ve mentioned it a couple
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of times now, like, what is your homeschool vision? So I really think
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there are three parts to this. Like, what is important about
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education to you and your family? That’s the first thing. You
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know, some families might be a little more stem oriented.
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They may be more all about the freedom that comes from homeschooling,
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whereas other families, they might be a little more academics
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oriented, or we’re all about relationships or
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child led learning. It’s going to be different for every single family.
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And so what does your family think about motivation? So that’s the first
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thing. The second thing, or what does your family think about education?
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The second thing is, what is your motivation? Why are you
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homeschooling? Because when homeschooling gets hard and it’s going
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to, you want to be able to look back on that why?
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And remind yourself why you’re doing all this hard
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work. Why are you doing this? And then the third part of this kind of
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consider your motivations is the atmosphere of your
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home. Like, I would just encourage you to sit down with a blank piece of
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paper and prayerfully consider writing down, what do you
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want the atmosphere of your home to be like? Do you want it to be
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light and vibrant and busy? Do you want it to
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be full of science experiments and art
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supplies? Do you want it to be cozy and quiet?
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I mean, you can cultivate quiet in your home school.
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So, like, what is the atmosphere of your home? Because that
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is what you can control. You can work on the particular
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atmosphere. You can’t necessarily control where your kids end up 20 years from
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now, but the atmosphere is something that you could
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absolutely work on. So considering your motivations,
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is step one. That’s your first basic, and then your next
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one is to establish simple routines.
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So every homeschool family, whether they want more of a
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daily flow and a daily rhythm, or if they
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want something way more structured, you know, the Charlotte Mason people
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sometimes pull out their timetables and they’re like, we’re going to be doing
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these subjects at these times. Yeah, that never worked for
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me. But more power to them. Whatever the case may be,
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you’re going to need some kind of routine for your day.
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Some kind of. We’re starting with this and we’re moving on to this next
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thing. I like to plan my day in these big chunks. You
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know, we kind of have pre morning time. When the
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kids were little, that was a time that they got up to play. I was
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getting a few morning chores done. Now it’s very quiet
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in my house. Pre morning time, I actually have to go wake people
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up for that time of day. Then we would move
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into morning time, after morning time, morning basket, we would move
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into individual work. And then individual work would just
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vary depending on the age of the kid as to how long it took. But
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I love to plan my day in those big chunks. But every single
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day, the big chunks kind of happened in the same order.
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And that was that routine that I had established for us.
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And those routines are very important. The third step, the
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third basic that I have for an abundant homeschool is
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commit to a minimum viable
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day, or I like to call it an MVD.
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So your minimum viable day is the least amount
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of school that you can do and still
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feel good about having gotten a school
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day done. Did that make sense? Yeah,
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absolutely. Okay. Because sometimes if you’re only. If you only
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have time to do a few things, what are those few things
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that you’re going to focus on? Right. And what. What we’ve discovered when people
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start this process, this minimum viable day process, and
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this is something that we’ve always taught in our homeschool consistency boot
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camp. For people who have struggled with homeschool, consistency is a lot of times people
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try to add too much to their minimum viable day. Like, I’m really talking
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about for a while with some of my kids, it was math and morning
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time, or even I had one kid who really
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struggled with dyslexia. And so it became like reading
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instruction and morning time, or reading instruction in math, like
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two to three subjects. And so the
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next part of that is commit to it, because
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building your consistency muscle in your homeschool is going to have
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the biggest benefit for your homeschool over anything
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else. It is bigger than choosing the perfect curriculum. It
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is bigger than getting the right method. It’s bigger than all of that.
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Just choosing something and being consistent with it
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regularly. And so when you decide what that minimum viable day
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is and you commit to it, then you’re proving to yourself that
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you can be a consistent homeschooler. And perhaps even more importantly,
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you’re proving to your kids that we’re gonna get up and we’re gonna do school
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every day. And so you get a lot less pushback from them.
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Your days just flow more smoothly. Sure. Because then they know what
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to expect. That’s exactly right. They know what to expect. That
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establishing your routines and committing to that minimum
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viable day. And so it got to where, like, even if we had to run
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to the doctor’s office for part of the day, or,
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you know, if the day just went crazy, off the rails, or sometimes
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if I just got distracted by scrolling on my phone
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and I looked up and it was like, it’s 11:00 a.m. right?
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We’ve done nothing and we’ve got to get out the door to gymnastics
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at 130 homeschool gymnastic class. There’s no
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way I’m going to get my school day done. At least I
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had my minimum viable day to fall back on. And that just told the
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kids we did school because they weren’t keeping track, they weren’t keeping
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sure of what was a minimum day and not a minimum day.
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Right. For them. We were either doing school or not doing
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school. And so having that MVD, that means we did
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school on those days. And it maintained that routine. It
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maintained that consistency. You know, we run that
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homeschool consistency boot camp, and we’ve been doing it
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often. Yeah. Since about 2017. I had
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this mom one time, I was speaking at a homeschool convention, and she came and
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she sat down in my booth. She says, I have a funny story for you.
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She had four teenagers. Like, her youngest was like twelve or 13.
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And she said, I got up yesterday, I was laying in my bed at 08:00
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a.m. and I knew that I was traveling
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here yesterday. So I’m laid in my bed at 08:00 a.m. and I hear
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all the doors down the hallway of my house open,
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and my kids come out and pad to the living room and sit
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down, ready to start school. She says, I totally
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forgot to tell them that we were not going to be doing school. That day.
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They had been in our consistency boot camp. She’d been in it for the six
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weeks before that. And her teenagers, that’s
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just what they did. They just got, came out and sat down even though
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she wasn’t there. They were ready to start school. Oh, my goodness. Because
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she had built that consistency muscle and she just said, you know, there was so
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much less pushback, so much less strife in her
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homeschool because they had been homeschooling so consistently over that
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six weeks. Yeah. That is so good. I
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think that’s like every homeschool mom’s dream is for their kids to just show
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up on the couch. Oh, wake. You talked about having to wake up your kids.
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Oh, dear. My girls. I always tell them they’re like
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the best, worst waker uppers in the world. I know it’s not a
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word, but it is so hard to wake them up. My youngest used
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to be, she’s the one who requires the least amount of sleep, I
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think of all of us in our family. And she’s just very personable, very
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active, loves life. She’s just awake and
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ready for the day. And she has always been that way since she was born.
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I mean, just like she would wake up with a smile on her face and
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singing and ready for the day. And then she hit 13 and
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she, she is still such a delight. But it’s just so funny because now, I
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mean, she could sleep till twelve or 01:00 if I would let her. And it’s
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like those, those clocks turn. They become teenagers and all of a sudden
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they need so much more sleep. And so I find that difficult
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sometimes, too, to know, like, okay, they really need
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sleep, but they don’t sleep until 12:00 during the school
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year, but during the summertime, I’ll let them sleep late. I don’t care. Um, there’s
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not that much going on. And, um, but, yeah, it’s, it’s hard
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to get them up and get them motivated and, and going in the morning because
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they’re just so tired. And so I find it difficult
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to get them up when I know that they need sleep in the morning. But
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it’s, it’s necessary. We have to get up and do life. So let’s take a
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break. We’ll be right back.
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We are back with Pam. All right, we’ve talked about three of the five
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basics. What are the last two? So basic
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number four is to sprinkle wonder. So once you
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kind of get your vision, you get your routine in place and you
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are working on being consistent. The next thing we want to do is we really
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want to start adding a little bit of wonder to our
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homeschool. And when I talk about wonder, you know, GK
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Chesterton has this wonderful quote. He says that the world will never
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starve for want of wonders, but only for want
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of wonder. And he’s talking about us and our ability
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to marvel at different things. And that’s
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a great quote. I love it so much. But I don’t want you to think,
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oh, great, now I’ve got to go out and find all these marvelous things for
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my kids to look at, because wonder is also a verb. So
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how can we. How can we be curious about the world around
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us? How can we be excited about some of the things that we’re learning?
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And notice that I said sprinkle wonder, not drench your
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homeschool in wonder. I mean, everything you do in your homeschool is not going to
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be just, you know, turning cartwheels kind of fun.
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It’s just not the way it works. So I like to focus on bringing more
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joy than fun to your home school. Like, we don’t want to have to
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be feeling like we’ve got to tie ourselves up in knots in order to make
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every lesson absolutely fun. But we can sprinkle those little bits
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of wonder. And one of the ways that I like to do that is by,
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you know, changing up some topics. We have our
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explorations in our wonder studies
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in our membership on the website. And every month is a different topic.
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And we explore the music related to that topic and the art related
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to that topic. And it’s just a fabulous way
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our members can sign up for a text where they get a text every morning
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with one activity. And even with teenagers, it’s
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just a fabulous way to add, you know, a couple years ago, my
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kids just were fascinated. There was this photographer,
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the theme for the month was bugs, and there was this
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photographer who had taken these, like, super close up macro shots of all of
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these different bug body parts. And we spent a couple of
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days just marveling at these photos
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and his process and how he took these photos. It was just absolutely
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fascinating. It started so many different conversations. With my teens,
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we also have read, like, math poems.
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There’s this great book by Fiona Pappas called Math Poetry
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in two voices. And so you would read the poems
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together, and sometimes you would alternate
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reading lines, but other times the lines were meant to be read on top of
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each other. And we just had such a fun time reading poems about
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pie and tessellations and just all of these topics that don’t
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normally show up in your kids mathematic curriculum. Yeah. Oh, wow. I don’t,
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I have no idea what a tessellation is. Yeah, so they’re repeating patterns, but
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just great little sprinkles of wonder. Keeps the
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learning interesting and exciting even, you know, even for your
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teenagers, even for you, you know, just learning alongside your kids. So
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that’s, that’s number four. And then the last one would be to
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anticipate adjustments. So any time that we’re going
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to be talking about homeschooling, there are things that are going to need to
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be adjusted. And, you know, it’s always great to like set your plan up beginning
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of the school year and go, this is perfect for the whole year.
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And, you know, like three months later, you’re like, this is not perfect for the
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whole year. And so I really
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encourage you first of all to schedule in what we call
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periodic reviews into your homeschool planning time.
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So, you know, every six weeks, every twelve weeks, something
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like that. Taking a look at what’s working and what’s not working,
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holding off on making curriculum changes until those
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periodic review times. Sometimes if you just kind of push
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through the hard parts a little bit, you don’t actually have to go pull out
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your credit card to try to solve your problem. That’s another thing. And
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then finally to realize that the homeschool year, you
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can’t maintain August energy
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right throughout your entire homeschool year. It is perfectly natural
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and normal for the energy and the vibe of your
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homeschool to ebb and flow as the year goes on. So as you’re sitting
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there in November, you’re sitting there in February and you’re
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wondering, why is this just not like it was in August?
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It’s not supposed to be. It’s just natural and normal
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for this to kind of go up and down. And when we lean
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into the fact that that’s natural and normal, then we stop beating
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ourselves up for why can’t we maintain this intensity throughout the whole school
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year? Yeah, and every homeschool mom for the most part,
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is like that. We go through these seasons and I feel like usually
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we kind of end on a higher note because we know
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summer’s coming. And then now we’re in the middle of summer and I’m
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like, ah, you know, I can’t wait to, for school to be back. You
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know, we just get so anxious about being back into the rhythm
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of school and just that schedule. And so
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summer’s fun, but it also,
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you know, I don’t know. I like the structure of the school year better.
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Yeah. I think the biggest thing is just to realize that you’re
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never going to maintain like August. For most of us who went to
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public school, there’s this excitement, there’s this like,
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you know, you see all the shiny school supplies out,
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new curriculum, a new schedule, you see all the back to school photos and maybe
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you do something fun like a not back to school day or something. And it’s
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just really awesome. It just like it’s not meant to
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stay the whole year long. You would just be completely worn out.
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So. Yes. Yeah, for sure. Such good stuff.
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Pam, in the last few minutes we have just a couple minutes left,
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just throughout. Some other resources that you have because you have so many.
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So I know you can’t possibly list them all, but what are some
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other things that would just help as we’re kicking off this new school year?
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Help these moms to be able to homeschool successfully with, you
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know, excitement and encouragement.
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Because it’s what we need. Moms need encouragement. So if you don’t
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have your year planned, I do highly recommend you come and check out our course.
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Put your homeschool year on autopilot. So many of the
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planning things that I’ve talked about today are
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included in the course. And we walk you step by step on how to create
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that flexible plan for your home school. For
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those mamas and dads who are
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starting the high school years, we now have a high school resource called
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navigating high school, which is a comprehensive course for
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parents who are maybe a little bit apprehensive about high school. How do I do
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this? And so we walk you through it step by step. We have a transcript
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generator in there. And then we focus heavily on
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a lot of not only the practical things that you need to do,
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but also the mindset shifts that are
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vital to feeling confident that you’re doing
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what you need to do in homeschooling high school. And then
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we’re really leaning into whole family learning over at
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homeschool better together. So we have a few resources for that.
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Our wonder studies. That is our monthly membership. It has
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three different pieces. It has our little explorers preschool program,
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our explorations, which is all fine arts, and then
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our voyages, which is unit studies. But all
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three revolve around the same theme. So you can take kids
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of any age range. In August it’s bees and honey,
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in September it’s apples. And then we get into
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like themes like ships and sailing and presidents and
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engineering. We just have so many fun themes switches up every
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month, but you’re able to do your science, your history
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and geography and your language arts using these
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themes in our voyages. And then we have this fabulous
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new resource called language arts together, which I
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absolutely love. I wrote a couple of these last year with, I
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did one with trumpet of the swan and the magician’s nephew. And so those are
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designed to take kids in like first through 8th grade and using
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differentiated instruction, being able to do a
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large part of your language arts with just one engaging read
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aloud. Yeah. And your kids at the table. And so we break it down, we
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give you a daily lesson. We tell you exactly what to do,
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exactly what to say. The lessons take about 20 to 30
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minutes and you’ve got language arts for your entire family. And
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then our brand new resource, following on the heels of that,
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is citizenship together. And our first unit with that one is about the
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us election coming up this fall. Same kind of
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principle. This one’s geared a little more towards middle school, but
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you’re able to bring in a large age range of kids and
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study the elections altogether. Yeah, that’s going to be
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fun. It’s such an interesting time.
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Current political situation, we’re studying the elections in general and what
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it means and be a good citizen. So, yeah, yeah,
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it is really fun once your kids hit 18 and they’re able to go to
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the voting polls with you. And it’s been fun, you know, taking
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Brooklyn and, yeah, I texted a little. Bit sticker on
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primary day and I’m like, you
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get to go vote. And she’s like, well, who for? And I’m like, I don’t
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know. You’re the one who has to figure that out. Right?
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But you do get to go vote. Yeah. Yeah. Good stuff. So
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much fun for them. So. Well, Pam, thank you again so much for
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your time this week. It has been such a pleasure chatting with you. You guys
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can find all things Pam Barnhill at our website, pambarnhill.com,
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and we will put links to all the things in the show notes to make
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it easy for you guys to find. Thank you so much for being with us.
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If you have not listened to my husband Garritt’s new podcast, the
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Thinking Dad, please listen to it. It’s so good. And then pass
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it on to your husband because it’s funny. We have heard now from several
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moms who listen to it and they’ve been so encouraged by it. And I love
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that moms are listening as well. Um, but it is, it is definitely
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geared towards the men, but the guests that he’s had on there have been phenomenal.
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And so you will be encouraged as well. And you can listen to it together
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as a family. And that would be a great thing for you guys to do.
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So listen to it wherever you’re listening to this podcast or watching on
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YouTube. It’s called the Thinking Dad. And we will be back next
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week with another fantastic guest. Stay tuned to hear what’s coming up next on the
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podcast, and we will see you back here then. Bye.