SR 876: Teaching History: Creative Ways to Make it Fun – Linda Lacour Hobar, Part 3 (Homeschooling Every Subject)

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There’s stories and then there’s stuff to do. So let’s just talk

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about stories for a minute. All of us are going to learn history better through

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a story format. Hey, everyone, this is

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Yvette Hampton. Welcome back to the schoolhouse Rocked Podcast. I am back

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with my sweet friend, Linda Lacour Hobar.

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That’s always a tongue twister. Every time I try to say

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your name, it’s always a tongue twister. It’s usually the maiden name that’s the problem.

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Lacour. Right, right. Linda Lacour Hobar.

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I don’t know what it is about that. I’m just going to call you Linda.

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It’s just you do that. It’s your friend name for me, anyway, so I call

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you anyway. We are back with Linda. She is the author of the mystery of

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history, and this is part of our history

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episode in our Homeschooling Every Subject series that

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we are doing. And so I hope this is helpful for you and just helping

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you to understand, like, why history? How do we study History?

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What do we need to study in History? And so Linda’s here to answer all

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those questions, because if you’ve heard the last two episodes with her, you know, she

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knows her stuff. You guys like it. It fascinates me how you can just

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pull all these names and. And events, you know, out of your head. It’s

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incredible to me. I wish I knew history that well. Um, but I’m

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learning. It is one of the greatest joys and privileges of

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homeschooling is regaining that education that

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I never got. I told. I’ve told you this before, Linda,

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that I didn’t even know what the Holocaust was until after I was

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married. Oh, yeah. I don’t. I still.

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I don’t know. I haven’t figured it out because I have no idea what kind

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of curriculum we used in school. And I don’t know if they didn’t teach it

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to us or if we just blew past it so fast that I

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didn’t catch it. But you can’t not remember the Holocaust.

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Like, how do you study it? Part of an agenda

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that I’m afraid you were subjected to because about the

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1940s, John Dewey and others really

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wanted to kind of, like, squeeze out history and replace it with social

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studies, because if we actually study history, we’re going to wise

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up to tyranny, and those who would like

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tyranny don’t want that. So, yeah, you were in the dumbed down era. I

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was also in that. I was in school in the sixties, and seventies. And that’s

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when it started. I know. Yeah, I think so. And still it’s continuing

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on today, but that’s a whole different topic. So we won’t get deep into that,

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but we will get back into talking about history and,

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and just the joys of teaching history to our kids. We’re going to talk today

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about how to teach history to your kids. But before we do, I want to

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or call them up and talk with them.

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Bjupresshomeschool.com. So, Linda, let’s talk about

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the how of teaching history, because this is, of course, one

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of those questions that every homeschool mom asks. Maybe they know what

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to teach, but they’re like, how do I do this? How do I teach history

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to my kids? And obviously picking up books and reading them, but

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how can we teach it? How can we make it enjoyable for ourselves and for

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our kids? Number one, I think we have to

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separate out that there’s stories and then there’s stuff

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to do. So let’s just talk about stories for a minute. All of us are

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going to learn history better through a story format. And any

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age can enjoy the same story. You could have the story of the trojan

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horse and a little four year old might actually enjoy it because there’s

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little soldiers stuffed in a horse that get rolled into a city gate, right? But

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a 99 year old can still enjoy the story because it’s just

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fascinating, right? So stories really are the key. I like to look

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at them as the meat, and then everything else is a

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side dish that you can add or take away. But the side

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dishes, they serve a purpose. So I was thinking about

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this event when you asked me to come on today, and I’ve never done this

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before, so I hope this works well. But I looked at how I would

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divide the side dishes and some letters came to me. I realized that if

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you took the letter e, you could say, well, some of our side dishes

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help us expand and enhance what we’re reading in history.

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So that’s your e column. But then a host of other little

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tools and things help us with an r, which is to review and

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retain. So if I could just take the rest of our time and divide between

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enr those columns, I think it’ll help give a visual to your

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listener so that they could think, ooh, what do we really need here? So, the

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kind of things that help you expand history. Well, first of all,

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literature, as in biographies, particularly your

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nonfiction. So maybe you have a basic story you got from a book, but now

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you’re gonna grow it because you’re gonna pick up another book. So, yes, you are

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just expanding literally what you read, taking it maybe to a

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higher level. Well, here’s another way to expand. What they’re learning in history

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is to tie in geography, open the

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atlas, pull out a globe, find with your finger where this took

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place so that you actually can then understand the dynamics, especially

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over border wards. You’ve got to see it visually. Then

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there’s a host of things students can do activity wise that are,

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say, research oriented. Like more of the

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story. Perhaps you want to do something like maybe, you know, the story of

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Alexander Hamilton, who died in a duel shot by Aaron

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Burr. Well, how about the rest of the story? Like, what became of

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Aaron Burr? So I love the rest of the story stories.

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Those are ways to expand and enhance. And

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then let’s not just forget that

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all stories, like you can’t learn it all

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in any single setting because it’s an endless topic. So there’s

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always more to learn. So if they want to go to the library and get

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all the ninja books or all the submarine books, just keep going,

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you know, which, by the way, don’t squelch a curious eleven year old. They’re

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notorious for that. They want to keep going and keep going. But now let’s

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turn to the r column and let’s talk about reviewing and retaining.

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What do we do to help us do that? And why do we even

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want to do that? Well, for one, we don’t want to waste our time. We

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want to retain some of the stories for all the reasons we talked about with

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the why we want to retain. Not that we’re going to get all the little

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facts straight because we’ll never remember them all, but we want to retain the

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most important people in the main parts of their lives. So one way to do

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that is maybe have your kids make little note cards as you go. You know,

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what are the, what are the takeaways for you? This is a

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place where quizzes are helpful, not because you’re nickel and diming

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the little facts, but the quizzes will help you keep straight some of the

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main people, I think, by the way, there’s about 100 people to

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know from each of those four time periods we talked about in the last episode.

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You know, the eras, ancient, medieval, renaissance, modernization. Students know about

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100 from each era. That’s manageable. When you start

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adding hundreds more, it gets cloudy and foggy.

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So use some note cards, use some quizzes to just help keep your

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hundreds straight. Let that be manageable so that you’re intelligent, you know, and can,

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and can use stories of the people. Another thing,

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there’s exercises, there’s games, there’s a lot of ways to just, you

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know, be fun. You know, pin the tail on the donkey. That’s,

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you know, putting people up and all kinds of things you can do.

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Then let’s go back to literature once again.

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Literature can help you with the retention and the

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remembering, but in this case, maybe it’s the historical

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fiction. It’s the kind like take Johnny

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Tremaine. He’s a favorite of the story of the American Revolution.

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He’s not a real person, but he represents a real boy. You know,

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he works for a silversmith. And it makes the time

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period become more alive, not because it’s a play by play of the

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American Revolution, but because he’s dropped in it. So obviously

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the read alouds, which, by the way, I have a host of read aloud

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favorites on our website because since there are hundreds of

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titles that could fit any time period, I personally went through and picked

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twelve to 15 read aloud favorites that I just think are the

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juiciest. So we recently added that to our website. I just want people to know

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because it’s a new tool. It’s like a list in links so you can find

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some of those things that we recommend. Oh, that’s great. Let’s see other things. Let’s

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go back to the activities. So for the

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little guys, I think the most important thing is we’re not expecting little

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guys, I mean, younger than middle school. We’re not expecting them to

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master world history. No one can master world history. The older

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we get, the more we can connect the dots and see cause and effect in

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that. But when they’re younger, we’re just exposing them to it.

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It’s the first time that they got the story of Mary Queen of

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Scots or whatever. And so in that case, we just want to use their senses.

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So let them burn things, dye things, eat things, cook

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things, do things using their senses to help them remember a

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story or an odd fact about someone and

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go from there. Then when they’re older, they can recall

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through the use of their senses. Like, oh, yeah. Remember when we were little and

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we wrapped up like mummies? They were just having fun with toilet

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paper. Of course, toilet paper, except during the. Pandemic, we had to like, oh,

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I’ll use, yeah. What do you call that?

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Yeah, use something else anyway. But just, you know, when they get older, it’s to

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realize that the Egyptians actually thought they had to preserve bodies because they had

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no hope for an afterlife. They didn’t know the biblical teaching that we would get

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new bodies in heaven. So they’re like literally taking old flesh and trying to

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preserve it through the mummification process. I don’t think

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a second grader needs to know that part. But they’ll remember when they’re in

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10th grade studying the Egyptians again, that they did that when they were

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little. So, yes, using their senses is just key, and it

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makes it more fun. We certainly want our kids on a good homeschool

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day to want more, to think that there’s some fun to be

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had. It’s certainly not just worksheets, though. Some will thrive on worksheets. You gotta

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know your kids. But most children are going to

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engage if they can move. Yeah,

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yeah, I know. There’s been times where my girls will do like a little skit

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or play or something like that. One time we even filmed it. And, you know,

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it’s the beauty of having smartphones now. Like, you can just get out your phone,

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say, put it on video and tell them, okay, I want you to act

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this out. You know, they can make fun costumes out of, you

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know, who knows, whatever materials they have at home. And,

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and that’s a really fun way for them to make history come

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alive and fun for them. And they’ll remember those things better than

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they will just reading it out of a book. One more great tool that really

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fits in both the e column or the r column would be

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timelines. Because timelines, when you do see it all spread

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out well, for one, that expands your understanding because you see contemporaries,

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but it also helps your review, like, oh, yeah,

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David and Esop live near each other. I’m sorry? Daniel and Esop live

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near each other. So how cool is that? And on and on it goes. So,

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yeah, we can’t leave out timelines. They’re a great tool for the how. Yeah, timelines

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are fun. I never had used a timeline, really, um, until we started

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homeschooling. The first one was we did classical conversations, and we had the timeline

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song, of course. And then now we have this beautiful timeline

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from master books that I absolutely love, and it’s so cool to just

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fold it out and look at what happened throughout

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history and how all of these things overlap and relate to each other. So

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timelines are really cool. They’re. They’re really a lot of fun. Uh, let’s take a

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break. We’ll be right back.

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We are back with Linda. This has been so much fun. I love

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talking about fun ways to make history fun, and it’s so funny. You

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talked about worksheets, and some people like worksheets. Abby and I did a back

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to school episode several weeks ago, and I talked about how I had

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this great plan for our school year, and Lacy

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was like, you know, she’s 14 now, and

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so I kind of sat down with her, kind of laid out my plan,

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and she’s like, can we just do, like, textbooks and

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worksheets? Because that’s what I like, and she loves it. It’s so funny. She

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loves to check off that scope and sequence. It’s, like, her favorite thing to

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do because she just feels accomplished, and that’s. And she’s always been that way. I

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don’t know why I thought I could get away with doing something different,

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but, yeah, she’s my worksheet girl, and she learns that way. She likes to fill

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in the blanks, and so it’s. It’s great.

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What else? What other encouragement do you have? We have just a few minutes left,

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so as we’re wrapping it all up and talking about how to teach

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history, how to make it fun, and you’ve had some really fun ideas, what is

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one last bit of encouragement that you would give to our audience? I guess I

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would want your listeners to hear this. Like, clearly, I’m passionate about

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world history now, but I wasn’t as a child. So

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a word of encouragement. Say you’re a teaching parent and you have a child

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that does not appear that academic. You worry a little bit about

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them. Well, don’t assume that they’ll stay that way

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forever. Don’t assume, for example, that they might not connect to

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history. I am a marinada,

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Martha. I am a feeler dreamer, free spirited

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type, and I got hooked on history because it is about

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people. And it doesn’t mean that I was necessarily the academic with

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all the philosophers. It didn’t mean that I had my, you know,

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perfect reports done and perfect

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bibliographies and the things that maybe a Martha could do. I didn’t have those

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things naturally, but I loved the subject matter.

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I was compelled by it. I still am. So there’s hope for kids who

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are peer studious and those who just appear not to be

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studious. Because if you can get their heart, then it doesn’t

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matter. Like I said, history, the meat of history, are the

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stories of everything else, is a side dish. So just pick and choose

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wisely. The tools we just described. When my daughter was in

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high school, she was like, mom, could we be done with timelines? Like, she had

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done timelines, and she was in first grade, so she did no timeline in high

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school, but she made memory cards. She made note cards coming out the

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wazoo because that fit her personality, like you were just describing

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of your daughter. So pick and choose wisely. Cause you can’t do it all. You’re

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not supposed to do it all, but keep a love of

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history through the stories. Ultimately, I think it can be

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done. Yes. I love that. And I’m so grateful that you

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have a book list on your website now. That is so helpful. So we’ll put

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a link to that in the show notes, of course, so that people can find

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that and easily find books. I love reading with my

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girls. You know, sadly, I don’t get to read with

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Brooklyn too often anymore, but Lacy and I still sit and

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snuggle up on the couch together, and we read, and I love it.

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And so it’s. It’s just a fun way to build relationships, but also learn history

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at the same time. So. Yeah. And when you can’t read, we have audiobooks

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because sometimes you gotta just pour it into a busy schedule. So there’s

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always the car. Yeah. Yep. That’s right. Which we love. The mystery

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of history on audio. I love that it’s Linda’s voice. She reads the

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whole thing, and it’s very well done. It’s so

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like, I can just hear the passion in your voice as you read and

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as you’re talking. So we’ll put links to the mystery of history, all things

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Linda Hobar, in the show notes, so you guys can easily find them.

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Linda, thank you so much for being with us this week. It has been so

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much fun chatting with you. Thank you for talking us through history.

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It seems like a really big thing to tackle as a homeschool mom,

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especially if you’re not a history teacher. You know, it’s one of those. I feel

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like history and science are the two. Maybe language

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arts, writing, you know, those are the. Well and mathematic. It’s all the

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subjects. I don’t know what I’m talking about. They’re all daunting. At times, you know,

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it just depends on the mom. It depends on what you’re comfortable

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teaching. And so, you know, for those who maybe do not enjoy

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history, they go into it, you know, just like, oh, okay,

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we got to teach history now. And so maybe

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listen to this podcast again, get some encouragement, and

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hopefully, hopefully it can be a wonderful year of teaching history to your

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kids. Now you’ve got the why, you’ve got the how, you’ve got the what, all

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the things. So thank you, Linda, for being with us. Thank you.

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Thank you. Absolutely. We love you guys. Have a

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